{"id":1083,"date":"2012-12-13T15:39:35","date_gmt":"2012-12-13T15:39:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/elearning.gbu.fr\/?p=1083"},"modified":"2025-01-24T11:28:15","modified_gmt":"2025-01-24T09:28:15","slug":"marc-8-27-38-la-gloire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.creusonslabible.fr\/?p=1083","title":{"rendered":"Marc 8.27-38 &#8211; La Gloire ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Nous sommes devant le passage-pivot de l&rsquo;\u00e9vangile de Marc : Avant, J\u00e9sus accomplit plein d&rsquo;actes extraordinaires et tout le monde (y compris les disciples) est impressionn\u00e9 et se demande qui il est !<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 cette question de J\u00e9sus qui conclut cette premi\u00e8re partie de l&rsquo;\u00e9vangile, on va donc enfin pouvoir r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 cette probl\u00e9matique !<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><i><b>vv.<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><i><b>27-30<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Qui est pr\u00e9sent ? O\u00f9 sommes-nous ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Pourquoi J\u00e9sus pose-t-il ces questions ? Pourquoi s\u00e9parer l&rsquo;avis des gens et celui des disciples ? (parce que les disciples sont en th\u00e9orie plus au courant)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Qui \u00e9taient ces gens ? Pourquoi prend-on J\u00e9sus pour JB, Elie ou un des proph\u00e8tes ?(voir Ml 4.5)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Que veut dire Messie ( = Roi) ? Si vous saviez que le Sauveur du monde \u00e9tait \u00e0 c\u00f4t\u00e9 de vous, quelle serait votre r\u00e9action ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Pourquoi ne faut-il dire \u00e0 personne la vraie identit\u00e9 de J\u00e9sus ? (parce que ce n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas le moment !)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><i><b>vv.31-33<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Que ressentez-vous en lisant cette partie ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Quel rapport entre cette partie et la pr\u00e9c\u00e9dente ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Qui est ce \u00ab\u00a0Fils de l&rsquo;homme\u00a0\u00bb ? Pourquoi cette appellation ? (voir Daniel 7)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Pourquoi cette r\u00e9action de la part de Pierre ? Est-elle l\u00e9gitime ? Auriez-vous eu la m\u00eame ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Que pensez-vous de la r\u00e9action de J\u00e9sus ? Quelles sont ses raisons d&rsquo;apr\u00e8s-vous ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><i><b>vv.34-38<\/b><\/i><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Qu&rsquo;est ce qui change dans cette partie ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">J\u00e9sus joue sur des opposition, lesquelles ? (le Moi Vs J\u00e9sus, la vie terrestre Vs la vie spirituelle)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Alors qu&rsquo;on ne fait que parler de gens enthousiastes qui veulent suivre et m\u00eame d\u00e9fendre leur Messie, J\u00e9sus parle de honte au v.38&#8230; pourquoi ? <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Que veut dire cet enseignement (de toute la section) ? <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Pourquoi J\u00e9sus dit-il cela ? Quels sont les d\u00e9fauts des auditeurs ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">D&rsquo;apr\u00e8s J\u00e9sus, peut-on \u00eatre \u00e0 la fois une star ET un serviteur ? Pourquoi ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><b>APPLICATION<\/b><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Qu&rsquo;est-ce qui compte le plus \u00e0 vos yeux ? Le regard de Dieu ou celui des Hommes ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Quel rapport avez-vous avec le succ\u00e8s ? Qu&rsquo;est ce que le vrai succ\u00e8s apr\u00e8s vous ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Vous arrive-t-il, comme Pierre, d&rsquo;avoir des moments compl\u00e8tement \u00ab\u00a0\u00e0 c\u00f4t\u00e9 de la plaque\u00a0\u00bb juste apr\u00e8s avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0tr\u00e8s spirituels\u00a0\u00bb ? Comment faire pour \u00eatre plus stable ?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nous sommes devant le passage-pivot de l&rsquo;\u00e9vangile de Marc : Avant, J\u00e9sus accomplit plein d&rsquo;actes extraordinaires et tout le monde (y compris les disciples) est impressionn\u00e9 et se demande qui il est ! 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